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Post by Naz T Mann on May 28, 2005 18:14:14 GMT -5
Best Star Wars film made. no. just, no. And to add to X's review in the part where he mentions about Anakin flippin back and forth, i have another point to add. He gets all whiny and bitchy about cutting off Mace's hand, he didn't even kill him, then all of the sudden he has no problem with offing a couple dozen children. What kind of transition is that? That made no sense what so ever. oh, and *horibbly gruesomely untimely kills Xtermo*
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Post by The Giant-Size Man Thing on May 28, 2005 18:53:40 GMT -5
Unless you are retarded, you could tell Anakin was going over and over through his head what Palpatine had told him. He then goes to Palpatine's office to see the arrest, and Mace has Palpatine pinned (not really, it's an act, but still). He pleas to Anakin to save him. And then he strikes a chord within Anakin: Without Palpatine, Anakin couldn't save Padme. He had a choice: save Palpatine and kill Windu and get the secret to keep the ones he loves alive or kill Palpatine, keep his standing in the order that he had, but (in his mind) let Padme die. He makes his decision and slices Mace Windu's arm off. Palpatine then tosses Mace out the window with his patented UNLIMITED POWER, and Anakin has no choice but to help Palpatine. He couldn't go back to the Order after helping murder Master Windu. He couldn't change his mind and turn back now. And Palpatine uses Anakin to start the Jedi Purge.
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Post by Naz T Mann on May 28, 2005 21:09:10 GMT -5
Unless you are retarded, you could tell Anakin was going over and over through his head what Palpatine had told him. He then goes to Palpatine's office to see the arrest, and Mace has Palpatine pinned (not really, it's an act, but still). He pleas to Anakin to save him. And then he strikes a chord within Anakin: Without Palpatine, Anakin couldn't save Padme. He had a choice: save Palpatine and kill Windu and get the secret to keep the ones he loves alive or kill Palpatine, keep his standing in the order that he had, but (in his mind) let Padme die. He makes his decision and slices Mace Windu's arm off. Palpatine then tosses Mace out the window with his patented UNLIMITED POWER, and Anakin has no choice but to help Palpatine. He couldn't go back to the Order after helping murder Master Windu. He couldn't change his mind and turn back now. And Palpatine uses Anakin to start the Jedi Purge. nice summary, but you do realized you in no way answered my question or proved any sort of point besides you saw the movie an remembered what happened during that scene.
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Post by The Giant-Size Man Thing on May 28, 2005 21:19:57 GMT -5
Anakin couldn't turn back. Palpatine knew this, and so he sent Anakin to go slaughter everything in the Jedi Temple because Anakin was basically his minion now. Besides, Anakin believed that what he was doing was the right thing to do in order to save Padme. Including slaughtering little kids. Anakin wasn't upset just over the fact that he did that to Windu. He was upset because he realized that he had just made his decision. He bowed down to Palpatine, and asked his new master what he wanted him to do.
Besides, the Dark Side will make you do some nasty shit. Does that explain it for you?
By the way, I don't think he was too happy about doing it later. It might be the reason he was crying on Mustafar before Padme and Obi Wan arrived.
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Post by Dark Aries on May 29, 2005 5:34:45 GMT -5
Really? Aries thought it was the heat. Intense blasts of heat'll make you cry. Just ask anybody who lives in the Southwest.
Regardless, Aries has a few problems with Episode III, but not enough to put a hit out on Lucas's life. Okay...Palpatine's "Good...goooood..." were cool in Return of the Jedi. In Revenge of the Sith...no. Just no. He looked drunk. Now, drunk is cool...when you're not the Emperor.
The Darth Vader reveal scene. Dear emotional God, WHY?! Luuuucaaaas!! You got James Earl Jones, a guy who probably has better things to be doing with his time for that?!! As much as Aries likes James Earl Jones, so much more could have been done with that scene. And that last "noooooo!"...Aries had a friend who literally had to stop himself from laughing. Aries put his face in his hands and shook his head out of shame.
Also...when...does Darth Vader...EVER...use...CONTRACTIONS?!!! Just hearing that "Where's Padme?", first words outta Vader's voice, just made him wanna go die. Would it have killed Lucas to stretch those words out?! As far as Aries remembers, Darth Vader has only used contractions about six times, and half of those were "don't"! That's not Aries's Vader, the guy who used to scare him when he was little! That's a fake Vader, and Aries doesn't wanna hear anything about him being one of Vader's helpers or anything like that!
The dialogue was horrid in places where it could have seriously punched things up some. Vader's reveal scene. Anakin pledging his alleigence to Palpatine. The hallway in the Jedi Temple. Even the opera scene, although that is likely one of the most memorable parts of that movie, and there wasn't all that much that could be done. Aries is just being nitpicky.
Especially with that Twi'lek chick on the steps outside the operahouse. There wasn't enough film to get her all the shots Aries thought she deserved. Anyway. Aries is a pervert, shuddup.
Jar Jar was nicely done for a change. In for two seconds, one line, out for the rest of the movie! Kickass!
Bail Organa was underplayed. Qui-Gon should have made an actual appearance. Grevious shoulda been more like he was in Clone Wars. So much more coulda been done with Dooku, hell, he was one of Aries's favorite characters!
In short, it's a good movie, but only just good enough for Aries to not want to kill Lucas. One more line outta Jar Jar and Aries would have Lucas's soul on Ebay right now.
*sighs.*
There is, however, one thing we can all look forwards to: the Prequel Trilogy Special Edition. Where he goes back and actually fixes stuff.
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Post by The Giant-Size Man Thing on May 29, 2005 14:59:45 GMT -5
Aries, you do realize that Anakin just got into the suit. He's not going to be the Vader we all know and love for another full 20 years. He's still the angsty little kid at this point, just in the armor.
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Post by Raz V5.0 on May 29, 2005 19:49:31 GMT -5
So what if the "NOOOO" was cheesy. What the fuck do you actually expect him to say? "Padme is dead" "Well... that sucks." There is nothing else for there to be a long drown out No. Sure it is cheesy, but the Star Wars genre is not expected to have Oscar winning dialouge. I mean fuck, people don't bitch about Solo saying "I'll see you in hell" which would basically make you think that in the Star Wars universe there is a heaven and hell which would mean there would have to be some jews, catholics, mormons, whatever the fuck, it would put religion outside of the jedi-order into it. But we don't bitch about that, no, we bitch about a totally appropriate yet somewhat cheesy no. Why don't you just accept the fact that it was completely appropriate for the scene.
Fuck, Luke does the same shit when he finds out Vader is his father.
Shut the fuck up you nitpicking faggots. Enjoy the movie for what it was, it isn't your vision, it is Lucas'.
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Post by The Giant-Size Man Thing on May 29, 2005 21:29:22 GMT -5
So what if the "NOOOO" was cheesy. What the fuck do you actually expect him to say? "Padme is dead" "Well... that sucks." There is nothing else for there to be a long drown out No. Sure it is cheesy, but the Star Wars genre is not expected to have Oscar winning dialouge. I mean fuck, people don't bitch about Solo saying "I'll see you in hell" which would basically make you think that in the Star Wars universe there is a heaven and hell which would mean there would have to be some jews, catholics, mormons, whatever the fuck, it would put religion outside of the jedi-order into it. But we don't bitch about that, no, we bitch about a totally appropriate yet somewhat cheesy no. Why don't you just accept the fact that it was completely appropriate for the scene. Fuck, Luke does the same shit when he finds out Vader is his father. Shut the fuck up you nitpicking faggots. Enjoy the movie for what it was, it isn't your vision, it is Lucas'. My name is Gojira and I approve this message. By the way, Leia only remembers feelings and images of her real mother. That can be explained through the Force. Leia only remembered Padme being beautiful but sad, and since Leia was the last of the two to be born, she had more time to pick that up, again through the Force. Use your fuckin' brains people.
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Post by Naz T Mann on May 31, 2005 3:06:44 GMT -5
So what if the "NOOOO" was cheesy. Biggest understatement ever. And goji, use your head. If Leia could remember her through the force, why not Luke who was actually more preficient in the force? Nice excuse, but it only creates another plot-hole.
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Post by The Giant-Size Man Thing on May 31, 2005 9:19:22 GMT -5
So what if the "NOOOO" was cheesy. Biggest understatement ever. And goji, use your head. If Leia could remember her through the force, why not Luke who was actually more preficient in the force? Nice excuse, but it only creates another plot-hole. Neither were more preficient in the Force than the other. Just that Luke got training and Leia didn't. Besides, Leia was with Padme longer, so maybe she managed to pick up those last images and feelings before Luke could.
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Post by Ai on May 31, 2005 14:46:37 GMT -5
Why does it matter? I'm sure there are cases of people remembering vague pieces of their mother if they died during child birth.
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Post by Naz T Mann on May 31, 2005 14:56:03 GMT -5
There's also people that claim cases of alien abduction, big foot sightings, elvis sightings, and talking to god.
EDIT: and yes, Luke was more preficient in the force. He wasn't stronger in the force than Leia, but his training did make him more preficient in the force. Get a dictionary man.
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Post by Ai on May 31, 2005 15:08:55 GMT -5
You like to nit pick, don't you? Get your head out of your ass.
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Post by Raz V5.0 on May 31, 2005 15:18:14 GMT -5
Wait a sec, didn't Leia's adoptive mother die also... or am I just thinking out my ass?
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Post by Raz V5.0 on May 31, 2005 18:22:08 GMT -5
Wait a sec, didn't Leia's adoptive mother die also... or am I just thinking out my ass? wow, Raz just owned us all. You're suprised? I am the Grand Marshall of Ownage, The King of Zing, the Homicidal, Suicidal, Genocidal Superstar, the Iyatollah of Rock and Rollah... and more nicknames I have given myself over the years.
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