Reason for me to withdraw from this battle:
Van Flieheit: *wonders why it is taking so long to consult Wind*
Ashriel Eheieh: Er, because he's not on?
Van Flieheit: What do you need to consult him about anyway?
Ashriel Eheieh: Make sure there isn't something else that's going to be going down soon.
Van Flieheit: eh?
Van Flieheit: I don't quite follow.
Van Flieheit: All it is, is a 1 on 1 Mobile Suit battle.
Ashriel Eheieh: *sigh* nevermind. I'll start then
Van Flieheit: Thanks.
Ashriel Eheieh: You need to state what setting we're in though before I post how Rei's armed though.
Van Flieheit: It is stated though.
Van Flieheit: "or online while he drifts in a bunch of space debris, whi"
Ashriel Eheieh: Ah, sorry.
Van Flieheit: No prob.
Van Flieheit: How long does it take you to reply to a battle?
Ashriel Eheieh: Not too long. Just posted. Sorry it took so long. I was eating a muffin.
Van Flieheit: Ok.
Van Flieheit: You are aware that I replied right?
Ashriel Eheieh: Yup
Van Flieheit: Good.
Van Flieheit: You certainly seem alot better than some people I have had to fight recently.
Ashriel Eheieh: Oh?
Ashriel Eheieh: I've only posted once
Van Flieheit: I had to battle someone today who was crap at MS combat.
Van Flieheit: It was at another board.
Van Flieheit: But, he was beyond even help.
Van Flieheit: He was as bad as someone can get lol.
Ashriel Eheieh: What'd he do?
Van Flieheit: Battle poorly.
Van Flieheit: I can give you the URL to the battle if you want.
Ashriel Eheieh: nah
Van Flieheit: Ok.
Ashriel Eheieh: is the P-2 the one that looks like GP-02?
Van Flieheit: Yes.
Van Flieheit: They both look like the GP02A.
Ashriel Eheieh: alrighty
Ashriel Eheieh: okie
Van Flieheit: Just the P-2 is the second one.
Van Flieheit: Basically an upgraded version.
Van Flieheit: Was that a burst of weapons fire?
Van Flieheit: Or a burst as in movement towards me
Van Flieheit: ?
Ashriel Eheieh: yeah, burst of speed
Ashriel Eheieh: using my propulsion booster thingies. Sorry for not being clear on that
Van Flieheit: Ok.
Ashriel Eheieh: I'll name a weapon if I'm using it
Van Flieheit: Okay.
Van Flieheit: posted.
Ashriel Eheieh: Er, you obviously misunderstood something about ghost's specs. "invisible to visual scanners" visual scanners as in cameras. You can see her with your eyes sure. But not through a gundam's eye.
Van Flieheit: The cameras on an MS work as the eye does, it takes in light.
Van Flieheit: The only way you would be invisible is if you were bending the light around you.
Van Flieheit: Which would not be possible without a high power draining system.
Ashriel Eheieh: *sigh* I told you the DS is weird, you see, I'm not much of a mechanic, but somehow, it may even be magical, but you cannot see the damned thing with a MS eye. Use whatever explanation you want since I'm too lazy to think of one. But there are other methods of detecting ghost.
Ashriel Eheieh: Don't mean to be unrealistic, but I've just never had time to think how it works.
Ashriel Eheieh: Basically, it's more of a chameleon effects.
Ashriel Eheieh: You can sort of see the figure.
Ashriel Eheieh: But it looks like a blur.
Van Flieheit: Yes...but unless you can explain how it works, it cannot work then.
Van Flieheit: Because in the Gundam universe, there is no such thing as magic.
Ashriel Eheieh: It's magic then. : p
Ashriel Eheieh: Then what was that pixie dust at the end of CCA??
Ashriel Eheieh: *joking*
Van Flieheit: Unless you can give a scientific explanation behind how it works, you cannot use it.
Van Flieheit: The most it could do is jam radar.
Ashriel Eheieh: If deathscythe can do it, so can I? *sighs*
Van Flieheit: The deathscythe is only equipped with normal sensor jamming.
Van Flieheit: That was a plot thing.
Ashriel Eheieh: This is a plot thing too?
Van Flieheit: Which is?
Ashriel Eheieh: That it gets to be invisible because it's cool like that?? I dunno.
Van Flieheit: No, you cannot perform it unless you can explain it scientifically.
Van Flieheit: I can explain everything on my Gundam.
Ashriel Eheieh: I told you. I'm not much of a mechanic. I didn't make it so I could think out how it works.
Ashriel Eheieh: Alright, then how would you do a chameleon effect?
Van Flieheit: Is that a pokemon effect thing?
Ashriel Eheieh: How about it can bend light or whatever?
Ashriel Eheieh: Huh? Pokemon?
Ashriel Eheieh: No, I mean like, it blends in with it's background.
Ashriel Eheieh: That's what ghost does.
Van Flieheit: Yes, but ghosts have not been scientifically proven to exist.
Ashriel Eheieh: It basically becomes a blured form of whatever is behind it. Like transparency.
Ashriel Eheieh: I'm talking about Ghost, not a ghost./
Van Flieheit: To perform that, it would require to bend light.
Ashriel Eheieh: Then it shall do just that.
Van Flieheit: But for a device to generate the field to bend light, the power needed would be way above what a mobile suit could ever hope to produce.
Ashriel Eheieh: Hmm.
Ashriel Eheieh: How about it can jam the electronics in the cameras?
Ashriel Eheieh: To stop them from perceiving her.
Van Flieheit: The power needed would be very high still, and it would mess your own systems up too.
Ashriel Eheieh: It would go well with the whole virus giving thing.
Ashriel Eheieh: Why?
Van Flieheit: The power needed to generate the field would be above what a MS can produce.
Ashriel Eheieh: *sigh*
Van Flieheit: But a MA may be able to produce enough power.
Van Flieheit: Plus the equipment can be pretty large.
Ashriel Eheieh: Well, fact is this, the DS system was not meant for MS, it is indeed a super robot-ish, ZOE-ish system, that can perform completely physically ridiculous things. You can either accept it, or leave the battle. Because I doubt there's a way to explain it that would make any sense unless I say it's CCA pixie dust.
Van Flieheit: Gundam uses found science.
Van Flieheit: Everything in Gundam UC timeline is possible.
Van Flieheit: Plus, if you can't prove how something works on your MS, then it isn't allowed in the Custom MS topic.
Ashriel Eheieh: Everything in Gundma is possible you say?
Van Flieheit: Yes.
Van Flieheit: UC timeline.
Ashriel Eheieh: Explain minovsky or whatever the hell it is then.
Van Flieheit: Minovsky particles are what make up beams for Beam Saber's and Beam weapons.
Van Flieheit: They are produced by the Fusion reactor.
Ashriel Eheieh: But does minovsky even exist?
Van Flieheit: The science behind it IS possible.
Ashriel Eheieh: But it does not exist.
Ashriel Eheieh: It is theory.
Ashriel Eheieh: Not found science.
Van Flieheit: But with current technology, it would not be possible to produce the particles.
Van Flieheit: Fusion Reactors are still in the works.
Ashriel Eheieh: Well, you said Gundam uses found science.
Van Flieheit: yes.
Ashriel Eheieh: Until minovsky exists, you can't use anything with minovsky. That's basically what you're telling me with the whole cloaking issue.
Van Flieheit: Okay..if you don't beleive me, then I will prove to you...
Ashriel Eheieh: I'm not meaning to be a pain or stubborn. But you can't say this is proven when it doesn't exist.
Van Flieheit:
www.gundamwatch.com/invision/index.php?showforum=8Ashriel Eheieh: *sigh* Everything there is theory.
Van Flieheit: The effect of what you are trying to perform with your MS is not possible with the Gundam technology.
Ashriel Eheieh: I know, the DS system isn't Gundam technology.
Van Flieheit: So therefore it cannot be used.
Van Flieheit: Unless it is either used in modern day times or in Gundam, it cannot be used.
Ashriel Eheieh: As I said, you can take it or leave it, you don't have to fight me if you've got a problem with it. Didn't you read its specs in the first place?
Van Flieheit: I did read the specs.
Ashriel Eheieh: And it's not as if I'm the only one.
Ashriel Eheieh: Then you read that it cannot be seen by visual scanners.
Van Flieheit: speed and stealth cannot be seen or detected by any form of radar,
Van Flieheit: You said RADAR
Van Flieheit: Radar is totally differant to the visual cameras.
Ashriel Eheieh: God damn it, I posted the old stats.
Ashriel Eheieh: Oh wait
Van Flieheit: Those stats are more realistic.
Ashriel Eheieh: No I didn't
Van Flieheit: The Radar part is fine.
Ashriel Eheieh: cannot be seen or detected by any form of radar
Van Flieheit: It doesn't mention anything about being invisible to visual sensors and cameras.
Ashriel Eheieh: Seen as in with cameras.
Van Flieheit: It says Radar.
Ashriel Eheieh: no it says detected by rader
Ashriel Eheieh: seen is something else entirely.
Ashriel Eheieh: I'll fix that
Ashriel Eheieh: You can go ahead and end the fight if you don't want to deal with Ghost. i won't change it to and thus ruin the theme of the DS
Ashriel Eheieh: And do you really think all of the ms people post in the holodeck are rational?
Van Flieheit: I will be posting this as the reason for me to withdraw from this battle.