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Post by Triyun on Nov 3, 2004 13:09:19 GMT -5
Daschle lost South Dakota (not really surprising), that leaves Senate Minority Leader open. I think Kerry should run for it, it would help unify the party if he wins as they still have the same central leader and they could carry on the good fight into the mid-terms. Any thoughts?
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Post by Tobari Sabbatine on Nov 3, 2004 14:14:53 GMT -5
I could see that he has about 47% of the pop vote.
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Post by Cygnus X-1 on Nov 3, 2004 17:02:03 GMT -5
I think that Minority Leader would be a good possition to see Kerry in. But, ideally, it'd be wonderful to see someone a little more liberal.
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Post by Triyun on Nov 3, 2004 17:47:47 GMT -5
See if Kerry was incharge though, we would have an identifiable face on the democrats side. People see Kerry even though he lost as someone who can go up against Bush with credibility, he proved that in the debates. Thats why I think he'd be a good leader. Someone more liberal would be nice, but the structure of the Senate makes it unwise. The Senate favors a more conservative movement overtime, because each state has 2 seats and smaller states trend more conservative.
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Post by NeoEllis on Nov 3, 2004 18:07:31 GMT -5
I agree with Triyun. What the Dems need now more than anything is to bounce back as soon as possible and show that they can be a powerfull force more than once every four years.
For the reasons stated in the post above, I believe that Kerry is the man to take the Democrats in that dirrection, what the cannot now is break down and start attacking one another.
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Post by Triyun on Nov 3, 2004 18:40:18 GMT -5
Very true, leave that to the Republicans. Many may wonder what I'm talking about.
I live in Pennsylvania, a moderate-democratic leaning state, but outside the cities which are democrate its about as red as Texas. Arch-Conservative Toomey in the Republican Senate Primary got a lot of support up here, in fact it was a lot closer between Spectre and his Hoeffel partly because dems here made a great get out the vote effort, from what I've seen, young people did show up here for Kerry but also, A LOT of conservative republicans voted for Hoeffel because they didn't see Spectre as a real Republican and preferred Hoeffel because he was at least honest in there view. They really loathed Spectre in short, my good conservative friends think Spectre is a liberal not even a moderate.
Last year DeLay house majority leader responded to a reporters question about McCain asking is he a liberal.
Buchanaan and Scarborough the two big conservatives in MSNBC said throughout this election cycle saying that after Bush gets reelected and the Republicans are safely in power the sparks are going to start flying.
My hunch is that conservatives will be pushing for constitutional amendments on gay marriage and anti-abortion legistion as well as justices very hard. If DeLay doesn't keep his majority leader status because of his ethical problems that to could be a friction point as well.
If this goes to the conservatives, I think we could see some people might leave the party, the log cabin republicans are gone, and moderates like John McCain and Arnold may I emphasize may could get fed up and leave the party.
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Post by DarkAries on Nov 3, 2004 19:14:13 GMT -5
Aries would like to see either Kerry or Barak Obama as Senate Minority Leader.
*realizes what sad times these are indeed...*
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Post by Juan on Nov 3, 2004 19:44:42 GMT -5
Well, I could see Kerry getting this spot wouldn't suprise me. I don't think Edwards, while many people think he is charismatic, is going to get even back in the senate seeing as how Republican voting his state was election. Should be interesting to see how this turns out.
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Post by Triyun on Nov 3, 2004 20:08:35 GMT -5
Well Bowles did get close both times he ran, I don't think he was charismatic enough, if Edwards had run for re-election this time I think he would have won. But he went to the left when he went national and now I agree, North Carolina and Virginia though could become swing states in 2008 but probably more in 2012 and 2016 because there is a lot of migration from blue states there because of cheaper real estate prices and cooler weather. I think if he wants to wait that long he could. His best chance at a high profile job, DNC chairman, ditching McAuliffe is going to become a serious question now.
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