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Post by Juan on Nov 18, 2004 14:52:34 GMT -5
So, because I believe that War is sometimes justified, I'm a mindless violence-induced guy who doesn't care about chaos? I mean, if you wanted to villianize more really, I mean, you would have been more accurate characterizing me as freaking Vlad the Impaler then that, honestly. Vlad was a crazy ass evil son of a bitch, but he didn't believe in chaos, which I don't, in fact he was violent for the sake of order (along with his insanity). That is a hell of alot closer to me (I'm not crazy ass or even that violent for that matter but its a hell of alot closer).
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Post by Fireball on Nov 18, 2004 17:13:59 GMT -5
So, because I believe that War is sometimes justified, I'm a mindless violence-induced guy who doesn't care about chaos? I mean, if you wanted to villianize more really, I mean, you would have been more accurate characterizing me as freaking Vlad the Impaler then that, honestly. Vlad was a crazy ass evil son of a bitch, but he didn't believe in chaos, which I don't, in fact he was violent for the sake of order (along with his insanity). That is a hell of alot closer to me (I'm not crazy ass or even that violent for that matter but its a hell of alot closer). I doubt that Vlad III Tepes Dracula was insane. First off, he had to constantly regain his thrown, and deal with mantaining an unstable alliance with both Hungary and the Ottoman Empire. Ergo, it was just politics that led to ruthlessness, not insanity. Here's another comparison in literature and in history. Fireholder and myself represent Jean-Baptist Colbery and Nicolas Fouquet respectively. FH/Colbert supported the downfall of equality and indivisualism in exchange for absolute power for the moderators/Louis XIV. Fouquet was the last stand of individualallity, loved art and literature, as well as being a romantic, well, at least in Dumas's writings.
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Post by Juan on Nov 18, 2004 17:44:55 GMT -5
I should have said supposed insanity, because I am one of the defenders of the fact that there is a strong possibility that Vlad was nowhere as crazy, perhaps even as bloodthirsty, as they said.
All the information we have on Vlad is in fact german propaganda, and the Germans highly disliked Vlads. Its like basing your views on a political canidate completely by the propaganda of an opposing side. Things are going to be VERY distorted. Many of the stories about Vlad are very contrary, hence my doubt.
Vladamire Tepes Dracula could very well have been a great man like the people of Romania consider him, rather then the common belief outside of Romania. "Dracula" doesn't refer to the devil historically, but rather "Son of the Dragon", because Tepes' father was Dracul, "The Dragon", and a member of a secret Catholic society for the defense of the Church (Iscariot esq, yes). Tepes partially translates into "the Impaler" but literally means like "Spear" or "Pike". It is likely that Vlad did have an affinity for impaling crime breakers and did have an affinity towards a strict government, but it is doubtful that everything said about him is true.
I've done alot of research on him.
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Post by Infested Manae on Nov 18, 2004 18:01:33 GMT -5
Oy. You're verging on stalker-like obsession there... Whoooooa boy. ;D
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Post by Fireball on Nov 18, 2004 18:30:46 GMT -5
That order you mention is the Order of the Dragon, nowhere a secret orginization.
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Post by Juan on Nov 18, 2004 18:33:34 GMT -5
True, seeing as how everyone in Romania knew about it hence the title he recieved.
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Post by Raz V5.0 on Nov 21, 2004 2:37:59 GMT -5
OMG you fucking Emo-Goth kids.
Kill yourselves, your not vampires.
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Post by Juan on Nov 21, 2004 9:29:03 GMT -5
Whoever said anything about Vampires? We were discussing some of the real life characteristics of Vladamir Tepes Dracula.
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Post by Raz V5.0 on Nov 21, 2004 16:07:15 GMT -5
Shut Up, Emo Goth Kid.
Hehe, I have some qualities of Haggar the Horrible, it may not be a novel, but his Comics are funny.
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Post by The Giant-Size Man Thing on Nov 21, 2004 18:27:30 GMT -5
I think we have a little of Hagar in all of us. Yeah, if I were to assign a comic character to myself, it would definately be Charlie Brown. I am that sad.
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Post by Ai on Nov 21, 2004 18:31:13 GMT -5
I would be all Hagar. Womanizing, fat, hairy, smelly...
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Post by Raz V5.0 on Nov 21, 2004 18:49:36 GMT -5
Please Ai, you are so Linus.
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Post by Ai on Nov 21, 2004 18:55:06 GMT -5
what
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Post by The Giant-Size Man Thing on Nov 21, 2004 18:56:58 GMT -5
Nah, he'd have to be intelligent, caring, and a little bit of a religious nut.
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Post by Ai on Nov 21, 2004 19:02:59 GMT -5
Hey, I'm not a complete moron.
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